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Old 04-11-2006, 07:00 PM
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You can't use suicide as a case for your argument. If they truly intended to kill themselves, they could just as easily stabbed themselves through the temple, hung themselves, or other methods id rather not think about.

Your statistic about criminals acting in groups is rare. Criminals are people that usually act individually. You cant justify a complete argument with a statistic that counts for only an infinitesimal percentage. Also, since when do groups of people gang up on one target. Its usually a place like a bank, and if everyone at the bank has a gun, id say the odds are with the civilians.

Might I also ask your source for:
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The presence of a gun serves more often to escalate the likelihood and/or severity of violence.
Because from what I know, it can go completely the other way.

Also, in regard to your tidbit, exculding suicide (which doesnt serve as an argument or at least a very weak one), may I question your source?

In addition, coming from the harvard source you posted:
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Firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate rather than for self defense
Meaning that your statistic doesnt count the number of criminals guns scare away.

Let me introduce another argument as well:

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God made man & woman, Sam Colt made man & woman equal.
By the way, do you plan on addressing the fact that there have never been shootings where lots of guns are present?
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