[ShadowMarth]

Wow, thanks Razion. That was actually useful, and put some new thoughts into circulation. I don't think the debate is going to last much longer, because Tim's arguments are breaking down in a genuinely hilarious manner. Also, I'm not annoyed that you didn't read it all, because most of the important stuff is covered in the first half anyway, and in fact the debate is still raging, and I haven't updated this version in about 20 replies...