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[TheEmptyPage]

"wd forward to a d smash insnt gonna be too effective especially with the horrible lag time in that."

but a wd foward to up smash is one of fox's main methods of killing >_>

and true infinites are kinda the only real "cheap" thing in the game, but i was just using it to show how a wavedash foward could be used in combos.

alot of times yes, you can use a wd back to Sapce somethign *marth's tippered foward smash anybody?*

and using the c-stick is NOT shameful in any shape or form. it's almost the only way to do good shffld uairs.

but with someone like metwo, it's better to do a djc uair and l-cnacel since you'll barely leave the ground if done right.
People who can DJC: Ness, Yoshi, Mewtwo, and Peach.. *just a random bit of info*

but yeah L-canceling DOES matter more on a player's style of play in a way.

the best player used to Wd kinda rarely *but with Marth, wavedashign isn't actually that necessary*.

but anywyas

[FoxIllusionTen]

well, that is true, wd forward to u smash but with fox's medium wd, people like marth could get a sword in before the move. Im sure most high calibur players will see that coming anyway. U Smash isnt that fast either. Good comeout time but the enemy can get an attack in before.

Too bad that marth's wd is awesome, what a waste...

and what was that mormon?

[TheEmptyPage]

actualy Fox's upsmash is fairly quick.. but the point is that you are suppose to damage him first so that he's stunned.

and i don't think Marth would have time to do anything... but i'm not that knowledgable about the speeds of attacks..

just wanting to say if anyone was wanting to see any of the pro vids: ssbm.it has a lot of them >_>

and what was that mormon?

theres a debate over c-sticking in the latest nintendo power

[FoxIllusionTen]

They start to debate about that now though the games been out for 4 years?

[alex]

lol well you know......

[ShadowMarth]

They had an article on the tournaments, which seems quite odd. Sure, it's the only Nintendo game to have major tournaments, but there are much bigger tournaments.

[TheEmptyPage]

"Sure, it's the only Nintendo game to have major tournaments, but there are much bigger tournaments."

*sigh* that's wrong, SSBM is not the only game that has tournaments, unless you mean games that are Nintendo exclusive.. but even then i'm pretty sure it isn't <_>

[ShadowMarth]

What? I mean real tournaments, not people hanging out in their basement.

[bignds]

Are we talking about non-nintendo games also?
There is always a Pro Evo tornement every year in Ealrs Court i think. thats a huge tornement. At Playstation experience they hold massive torneys.