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05-03-2008, 11:59 PM
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Wow that sad they beat him up cause he didn't talk but he couldn't understand what they saying wow thats bad
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06-03-2008, 02:19 AM
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And that would be war. Still amazes me people try to put all kinds of rules on it.
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06-03-2008, 08:42 AM
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Extremeists are not afraid of death, they embrace it. So how do you fight someone who is quite happy to give their live if it means ending yours?
You show them no remorse. They welcome death, so go ahead with the torture. For me especially, its a close issue, as these ****s continue to smear the name of my religion and the peaceful majority. The rules here should be context sensitive in my eyes, if they have been completely proved of being terrorists who could have viable information, go ahead, but you should have the same amount of conclusive evidence as you would if you were to trial a death sentence.
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06-03-2008, 08:26 PM
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Perhaps, but the point is, if you justify torture in any case, people WILL abuse it. Like the article says, very few of the people tortured in Iraq were actually terrorists, or even guilty of anything. You don't regulate something so blatantly wrong, you ban it. Either you are for cruel and unusual punishment, or you are against it. If you are for it, you are un-American. That's not hyperbole. In the Bill of Rights it names protection from cruel and unusual punishment as an INALIENABLE right.
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06-03-2008, 09:39 PM
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Life is declared an inalienable right as well, and yet we continue to use the death penalty.
You can still be american, bucko. And that was a biased article, so I wouldn't be surprised if they totally exaggerated to get a point across. Actually, I'd be very surprised if they DIDN'T, since that's what's known as good journalism these days.
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06-03-2008, 10:58 PM
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True, and that's one of the reasons there's a great deal of controversy over the death penalty. That article was mostly comprised of first hand reports of soldiers. I read it very carefully. It kept opinions to an absolute minimum. It was good journalism. You speak of Yellow Journalism, and this is not new. The bigger problem is PR constraining the ability of the press. These days journalists have a tendency to pretty much just push press reports.
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11-03-2008, 07:56 AM
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Being alive is a right.
But becuase the government controls these 'rights' they also have the right to take it away.
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11-03-2008, 08:34 PM
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Is this what touchds has came to since i was gone. To tell you the truth when i scrolled down i saw more words then i have ever read in my life. it would have taken me ages just to read all of the nonsense that was put on that post. I agree with mormon if you need info torture it out of them problem is solved and you got all that you need!
Ohh hay guys i am back dont worry kiss kiss
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12-03-2008, 05:29 AM
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I think you need to read more, there's a number of things already mentioned that conflict with that philosophy.
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12-03-2008, 06:26 AM
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lol @ the stupidity of that argument, Mormon's comments pretty much nailed it all on the head.
Also lol @ people who think terrorists deserve human rights
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