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Old 12-03-2008, 08:32 AM
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:48 PM
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The problem, as has already been mentioned, is that innocent people are being identified as terrorists and tortured. This can't be allowed to happen.

I agree terrorists don't really deserve any rights since many of them intended to kill themselves along with their victims anyway, but sometimes (I'd think) being merciful to them would give them a certain respect for us. Really the only thing to worry about if they aren't killed is if they escape to kill another day or manage to communicate and plan a terrorist action.
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Old 13-03-2008, 06:16 AM
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That is true all terrorists have rights to life and no one but God can take those rights away from them
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Old 13-03-2008, 11:53 AM
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The problem, as has already been mentioned, is that innocent people are being identified as terrorists and tortured. This can't be allowed to happen.
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I agree terrorists don't really deserve any rights since many of them intended to kill themselves along with their victims anyway, but sometimes (I'd think) being merciful to them would give them a certain respect for us.
That statement is pure, 100%, liquid ignorance.

Respect doesn't bring back American lives.

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Old 13-03-2008, 02:40 PM
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(I'd think) being merciful to them would give them a certain respect for us. .
Now this is where I disagree.
Why do you think the terrorists are doing this?
To kill us, to make us think like them
And when u put a bomb into someones hands and they happily accept to kill countless numbers of people then they dont have respect on their minds, they have death on their minds.

They wont respect us, becuase they hate us. hate us so much that they want us all dead.
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Old 13-03-2008, 03:55 PM
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hold up i wanna live in candyland where do i get in?
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Old 14-03-2008, 09:32 AM
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Respect doesn't bring back American lives.
Nothing does, so what's your point?

Didn't Bin Laden say something awhile back that he just wanted the Muslims to be respected by the Americans or else he would continue attempting terrorists attacks on America? If he meant it, it's quite possible that respect could've saved many lives. But since Bin Laden probably gets most of his information about America from the news, and the news agencies get their business from bad news... I think you know where I'm going with that.

Just think about it, would you still want to kill someone being super nice to you as much as you'd want to kill someone horribly torturing you, even if you wanted to kill everyone in their nation/religion? (for lack of a better way to put it)
It's mostly a morality thing, but being merciful to people who deserve to suffer is usually better in the big picture than torturing the crap out of them, especially when it isn't proven to be the right person with the information so badly needed. Who knows, maybe some of the terrorists were just brainwashed and it wouldn't take much to change their views, kind of like an Iraqi kid I saw in the news who was convinced by a terrorist to be a suicide bomber and then a negotiator talked him out of it. It's a lot easier to get an enemy on your side if you show them respect.
I'm not saying it's a solution for everything, but I think it's overlooked as an option far too often.
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Old 14-03-2008, 12:08 PM
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These people are insane, you can't kiss their ass and think they're going to 180 on their beliefs and stop their Anti-American vendetta. That's ignorant and unrealistic...

This is why Democrats shouldn't be in office during war time...they're total pussys...
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Old 14-03-2008, 07:35 PM
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So you're saying each and every terrorist is completely insane, and cannot possibly be reasoned with? THAT'S ignorant and unrealistic.
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Old 15-03-2008, 12:07 AM
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I'm saying their pitiful lives aren't worth the risk on our part to even bother trying to reason with 'em...
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