An FPS Discussion

[bignds]

So, E3 '06, and what is Microsofts big announcement?
"Halo 3, we believe this will make everyone want to buy a 360"
How so? Whats different from Halo 2, or even Halo?
"Master Cheifs suit now has nipples"
Anything else?
"The graphics are nicer"
Erm, anything else? Anything....?
"Yes, the graphics are nicer"

Okay, this is my general feeling to halo 3, and i remember a long gizmo chat with namster about the overrated game that is Halo 3.

Halo doesnt do anything groundbreaking. It didnt do anything fresh. Heck, I personally wouldn't put it higher than Call Of Duty. The only reason why certain people swear by it is because its a launch title, stuck with the console, and really, the only exclusive they can use to justify the purchase of the original Xbox.

Yeah, Halo can be fun in multiplayer, but come on, its not spectacular in any way shape or form, it doesnt do anything better than other FPS.

it does everything better than any FPS i've ever played.

you guys are just anti cause you're ninty fanbois.

halo blows call of duty away, ya nub =P

[bignds]

Point in case. Your trying to justify your purchase of an Xbox.

i never bought an xbox.

[bignds]

Well your sounding like one of them. *shifty eyes*
One of them.

[Lkr]

Halo sucks
CoD sucks
BF2 pwns
BF1942 pwns
CS:S IS TEH PWN!

i win at the internets

[ShadowMarth]

Precicely WHAT does it do better than another FPS? Let's go through the list, using UT04 as a point of comparison. Let's assume that the main parts of an FPS are... Weapons/Vehicles, Maps, Speed, Moddability (you may view this as unfair, but for any REAL FPS, meaning a PC one, this is standard and vital to the community), Online/Multplayer, and Control. We'll use Halo 2 in general.

Weapons/Vehicles
UT has a much greater variety and functionality of weapons. Halo has the same weapons you can expect from any FPS. C'mon, pistol, assault rifle, sniper, grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and 'alien' counterparts? Boring. UT has tons of great, original weapons, and even some 'super weapons' for team based maps. As for Vehicles, both do it fairly well. I'd not say either has BETTER vehicles, but UT definately has better variety. Heck, Halo doesn't even have air vehicles, except for the lone Banshee, which people have complained was a major balance issue in the PC version of Halo 1.

Maps
Halo has a few very recognizable maps. Pretty good map design. But they don't compare to the expertise of Epic's map design. With literally over 100 maps shipped with the regular version, plus more mod maps and game types in the Editor's Choice, Blood Gulch just can't compete.

Speed
Not even a question. UT04, and in fact any PC fps, win here without any difficulty. To dispute this would be idiotic.

Moddability
There were many mods for the PC version of Halo 1, but neither the PC version nor Halo 1 are in dispute here. The only thing moddable about Halo 2 is the game type. However, UT04 has built in support for the thousands of mods available, many of them have even become standard game types thanks to the Editor's Choice edition, and the Mod of the Day feature. A console FPS can't compete here.

Online/Multiplayer
I'm willing to cede that Xbox Live gives some advantages, such as being able to send messages to others in game, and the built in clan capabilities (though they are no longer an option), but UT04 in general has much more games available, more game types being always played, and you don't have to rely on the matchmaking of Xbox Live. You can pick your own game.

Control
If you dispute control, put a gun in your mouth.

psh i'll take dual analog over mouse & keyboard ANY day.

and speed has absolutely nothing to do with how fun the FPS is >_>

halo is better because the maps are better designed, and nothing is overpowered. seriously, EVERY weapon in halo except the needler is extremely useful and you could beat any combonation of weapons with any other kind. its just an even game, theres no complaints about how some guy got the best weapon and had it all game or whatever. you can't really be "cheap" in this game. i like halo cause its pretty even and fair and you only win because you had a better strat than the other guy, not because you managed to get that sweet/vehicle weapon the fastest.

[ShadowMarth]

Really. You're saying there's NO complaints about weapon balance in Halo 2? Nobody complains that the sword is overpowered? Nobody complains that certain weapon combinations are overpowered? That's complete bull. I've heard tons of those exact complaints.

And an addition, the online community.
Halofreaks curse constantly. They scream profanities and fake orgasms over their headsets. Delightful people.

yeah little noobs complain about that stuff cause they don't know how to play, but you don't hear much of that anymore cause most of the retard nubs have quit.