Pokemon Battle Revolution!

[ShadowMarth]

Yes, but they at least compensated for that partially with the good ol' "traded pokemon don't obey you" thing.

[leafgreen386]

Originally Posted by Mario Famous

Not really, it all depends on thier growth rate. A Pikachu with high growth rate could be powerful.

Unless you're doing level balance on netbattle (and that's using the Light Ball), Pikachu will always be inferior to Raikou. Always. Look up their base stats on www.smogon.com and see for yourself. In addition to that, Raikou gets Calm Mind. Of course, this is just an example. There are plenty of non-lengendary pokemon that are very good - Gyarados, Snorlax, and Skarmory just to name a few. However, all legendaries are usable at the least. Some, such as Groudon, Mewtwo, or Deoxys, are so powerful they are banned from normal competitive play.

Your whole comment about the "growth rate" thing was incomprehensible. The only things that influences growth rate are the pokemon's Base stats, Nature, IVs, and EVs (and of course level). Base stats are hardcoded into the game, they're the same for all of a certain breed of pokemon. Anyone who's played a 3rd gen pokemon game will know that nature is determined when you encounter a pokemon, lowering one stat and increasing another stat by 10%. IVs are also randomly assigned to a poke when you encounter it, ranging from 0 to 31 in the 3rd gen. EVs are increased from battling other pokes (allowing you to control what stats go up, since different pokes give different EVs), and you're allowed up to 255 for one stat, 510 as a maximum. For every IV and every 4 EVs of a certain stat, that stat gains a +1 bonus by level 100. The stat increase formulas are as follow:

ATk, Def, SAtk, SDef, and Spd: [(2B + EV + IV)Lv/100 +5]N

HP: (2B + IV + EV)Lv/100 + Lv + 10

B = base stat, N = Nature effect (0.9, 1.0, or 1.1), and EV = EVs divided by 4, rounded down.

Now for your whole "Pikachu growth rate" thing... what factors are actually attributing to this? Since you specified Pikachu, that means base stats aren't an issue. Let's just assume we're dealing with lv.100s here, so that factor is also out. You have complete control over what EVs you earn, so that's unimportant for this, as well. That leaves IVs and Nature, which are random upon encounter. Ideally you'd have either a Timid or Modest Pikachu, and high SAtk and Spd IVs. So what you're saying is if a Pikachu had that, and then you EVed it properly (ton of SAtk and Spd), it could be a formidable fighting force? I'm going to assume you mean with the Light Ball, giving it somewhere around 400 to 440 SAtk iirc. Oh, but look at that! Any slightly competant team has a special wall, namely Blissey, Regice, or Snorlax. Only after many turns of switching and predicting will one of these eventually go down, and you'll be able to get frail Pikachu in to maybe kill one poke if you're lucky before it gets killed itself. 90 base Spd is fast compared to most underevolved pokes, but is still a bit slow compared to a lot of the evolved pokes. To make matters worse, it's got pathetic HP and defenses compared to almost any poke in the game. Beating down the opponent's special wall is an obstacle for every team with a special sweeper, but when Pikachu's taken down so easily you won't be doing much sweeping. Raikou, Zapdos, or even Jolteon are all much better choices for an electric special sweeper, the first two being able to take a hit, and Jolt being able to outspeed almost every other poke in the game.

ya mos tpeople think its how rare they are and stuff i ahve elvel 99 pichu not pickachu pichu and it hits hard man heck hard prettty much 1 hit ko's all the time

That's because there isn't a foe in the game thats level comes even close. Have that Pichu play against almost any other poke around the same level and it will get owned.

[ShadowMarth]

In a not-so-surprising-but-nevertheless-cool development, it's been confirmed that the DS can be used to control the battle in this game wirelessly, which is nice for a bit of privacy when selecting your moves.

http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/...-a-controller/

[Yoshi]

It better be online

[alex]

has already been confermd for online

[Lkr]

Hmm...hopefully Datel(yes Datel <_< ) will make a FreeLoader for Wii SOON so I can import this...

[sasuke]

Sounds good, hope it is

[lemmywinks]

Pichu can't be good, no matter how hard you raise it...

Battle rev looks amazing, I hope they do it like the good old staduim games and not the crappy gamecube ones.

[Lkr]

Originally Posted by lemmywinks

Pichu can't be good, no matter how hard you raise it...

Battle rev looks amazing, I hope they do it like the good old staduim games and not the crappy gamecube ones.

Pichu can be very powerful if you are training correctly and he has a good nature.

And after playing Stadium 2 last week, I realized the AI sucked. It was still an awesome game though.

[leafgreen386]

Originally Posted by Lkr

Pichu can be very powerful if you are training correctly and he has a good nature.

Uh... no it can't. Did you even read my post up there? When a Pikachu can get over 400 SAtk (thanks to Light Ball, which Pichu can't use), and has a 90 base Spd, and STILL sucks, how do you figure a Pichu could be any good? Worse defenses (which is saying a lot because Pikachu's already sucked). Far worse SAtk due to not getting any use out of LB, plus the fact it's got a lower base stat, too. Oh, and it's got sucky Spd. Yeah... you know nothing.

Take a look at their base stats:

              HP     Atk     Def    Spd    SAtk   SDef   Total
Pichu      20 	  40 	 15 	 60 	 35 	 35 	 205
Pikachu  35 	55 	30	90 	50 	40 	300

I think you get my point. If I did my math right, with a Modest nature Pichu can get up to 185 SAtk and 219 Spd at level 100. With a Timid nature it can get up to 169 SAtk and 240 Spd. Its speed is its most redeeming quality, which is only below average. This thing couldn't even hurt most NUs. Most usable pokemon sit in the 500-600 range for base stat totals (granted, not all 600 base stat pokes are allowed in OU - six of them are, and five aren't, the main determinants being typing, movepool and distribution of stats), and even all of the only mediocre (I'm talking fully evolved here) are all above 400. This thing would get eaten for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Now, if someone could remind me why we're talking about Pichu again?

edit: I don't think I ever elaborated on why Pikachu still sucks despite getting 400+ SAtk to play with, and decent speed. Its speed isn't that great when you consider how there are so many pokemon out there that are faster than it (really, 90 is only above average), and have the power to OHKO Pikachu before it ever gets to attack. It doesn't even get a SAtk boosting move like Calm Mind to increase its ability to sweep, so the bulkier pokemon will rarely be OHKOed, either. Even a standard Suicune (which rarely has many SDef EVs) isn't guarenteed to be OHKOed by a max SAtk Pikachu Thunderbolt (keep in mind, Suicune is weak to electric - many pokes have less SDef and HP, but still are 2HKOed by a Pika Tbolt). If you're switching pikachu INTO Cune, you are granted an almost guarenteed loss. As you switch in, the Cune CMs, granting it the ability to guarentee a kill on pikachu (it already had a good chance w/o it), while taking only 57-67% damage itself from the Tbolt. A more adept electric sweeper would be Raikou. It gets CM, 115 base Spd and SAtk, and has much better all around defenses. Zapdos and Jolteon are actually a lot more common on teams than Raikou, though, despite Raikou having better raw sweeping power, due to them being far more unpredictable, having multiple sets that are effective, and thus are useful as more than a lategame sweeper (Zapdos is by far the most varied and popular of the three, having the ability to actually be played defensively thanks to its stats/typing, with a much more varied movepool to boot). Fun fact: Pikachu cannot break Raikou's Subs after one CM. I'm rambling now. My point: Pikachu and its predeccessor aren't very good. Use better pokemon.