Which Company Handles Backward Capatability Better?

[17R3W]

Originally Posted by ShadowMarth

Actually, where does it say it will play PS1 games? And even if it does, what're you going to do with it besides FFVII? With the Nintendo system, you'll have three fully accessable platforms of games, plus the GC support. That's a tad bit better.

The issue here isn't what system will be better, this entirly on backwards compatability.
The fact is the revolution will only play GC and rev games whilest the PS3 offers a 10 year libary.
You can't include the downable games in backward compatability.
That's like saying that the GC is backward compatable with N64 / NES cause you can get those Zelda games on GC disc.

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Sony's going to steal away the backwards compatibility domination yet again, as it has done in the past. We're talking physically compatible with older titles. Pop in a PSX disc and it'll boot up nicely (although, after playing with supposedly "far superior HD graphics," it'll be hard to look at a PS1 title and be satisfied... :P). The Rev will play GameCube discs, sure, but that's about it as far as just popping in a game from the previous generation. The 360... well, it could have handled backwards compatibility much better.

I mean, sure, you can access games from previous Nintendo systems on the Rev, but you can take an old NES cartridge and put it into the disc slot of the Rev. You'll have to pay for a copy of the game (which is probably enhanced) and have it downloaded to internal memory. 17R3W's right on the mark here with this observation.

[ShadowMarth]

Physical compatibility is out. Movies, shows, music, even games, are ALL being bought online now. If the system is capable of playing the software, it's backwards compatible. That means 4 systems of backwards compatibility, not just 1. C'mon, simple logic here, not a big stretch. When you buy the game data, you own the game, just as if it was a cartridge.

Here, don't just take my word for it. Take Wikipedia's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backwards_compatibility

Examples

* A computer system is backward compatible if it is able to work with software or accessories designed for the system it is meant to replace.
The Atari 7800 is backward compatible with most Atari 2600 games.
The Game Boy Advance is backward compatible with previous Game Boy systems, meaning all Game Boy & Game Boy Color titles are playable on this system.
The PlayStation 2 is backward compatible with the original PlayStation.
The Nintendo DS is backward compatible with Game Boy Advance games only.
The PlayStation 3 is backward compatible with PlayStation 2 games.
The Intel 80486 processor is backward compatible with the 80386 because it can execute programs written for the 80386.
The Xbox 360 is backward compatible with some Xbox games. Support for this function will improve over time.
The Nintendo Revolution will be backward compatible with every Nintendo system. The GameCube discs can go in the Revolution, but older games (NES, SNES and Nintendo 64) will be available through download.

Also, DSdude, who do you know that actually used the backward compatibility of the PS2? That is, if they didn't have the disk read errors that plagued the launch and even later releases. I'm sure people will use the PS2 compatibility since it's not too old, "but that's about it as far as just popping in a game from the previous generation."

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Dude, practically everyone I know who has a PS2 used the backwards compatibility for at least 1 game that they played (to the full extent or otherwise), myself included. Besides, there's a massive chance that the downloaded games will be "enhanced" to work on the rev (to at least output to full 480i(/p?)), therefore, they are not the original copies of the game. The argument here is about which company handles backwards compatibility better. There's no point in arguing the validity of physical/non-physical backwards compatibility. Besides, if I can simply pop in an older game from an older system into my new system, that is >>>> than buying and downloading.

Oh, and:

If a newer software version cannot save files that can be read by the older version it is not backwards compatible with the older version, although it may provide an irreversible upgrade capability for the old files.

And:

Many platforms rely on emulation, the simulation of an older platform in software, to achieve backward compatibility.

Wikipedia seems to be contradicting itself here, as it doesn't provide the fine line between computer software and software developed for video game systems and interoperability/compatible files. Sure, emulation is backwards compatibility, but do the files saved from the emulated software work with the original software?

This argument is dead, simply because there's no real way to prove either/or. Again, back on topic, I believe that Sony has handled backwards compatibility the best thus far, simply because of ease of use.

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[ShadowMarth]

Dude, the downloading is a necessary factor for this. Otherwise you'd have to go and search out for every single cart, not to mention it's much more reliable than a cart. It's more economical. And that way even obscure games can come back, much like old radio shows are being sold on iTunes successfully. It's an excellent system, and since the last generation is still good in physical form, there's no reason to diss it. I really don't get your argument against it, because I don't see a clear one...

[Lkr]

Originally Posted by Trentendo™

By Microsoft, I meant XBOX and XBOX 360

but when you say Microsoft, you also talk about Windows, cause when you say Microsoft, Windows which is the main game OS, comes to mind. so microsoft handles the best, cause they let a lot of the older OS's run newer software.

[17R3W]

Originally Posted by ShadowMarth

Dude, the downloading is a necessary factor for this. Otherwise you'd have to go and search out for every single cart, not to mention it's much more reliable than a cart. It's more economical. And that way even obscure games can come back, much like old radio shows are being sold on iTunes successfully. It's an excellent system, and since the last generation is still good in physical form, there's no reason to diss it. I really don't get your argument against it, because I don't see a clear one...

The argument isn't for or against the revolution, don't confuse the issue.
The debate here is which company is best does backwards compatability best.

As I understand, not only will PS2 play PS1 games, but it can use the same controllers and memory cards. (Assuming that the PS3 follows in it's footsteps you could indeed play your favourite PS1 games on a PS3 then go and finish your game on an old school PS1).
By the same token, you can switch between the DS and the GBA to play your GBA games.


And if we're not going to limit backwards compabillity to the physical carts/CDs
then heck,
DreemCast is backwards compatable with PS1 games
My DS plays GB, NES and SNES games
XBOX one plays - NES/SNES/N64 etc?
PSP plays - NES/SNES/GBA

Sorry ShadowMarth, emulation is a sliperly slope

[Trentendo™]

How the hell can you make a pc game bc anyway

[ShadowMarth]

Sure, emulation is a "siperly slope", but this is an issue of the companies and consoles, as you said. Homebrew is out of the question, unless it's supported by the company, which none of them do.

Now that that's out of the way, all signs point to the PS3 only being backward compatible with the PS2, not PS1. It's not "if we're not going to limit backwards compabillity to the physical carts/CDs", it's a simple matter that whether it's on a CD or Cart or not, it's still considered backward compatability. I thought my logic in the post two of mine above was very logical, and there was no sane way to refute it.... and I seem to be right. Keep your story straight.

So I will reitterate my opinion (backed up by the facts) one more time. Sony has been the only console to handle backward compatability well in the past, but that is over. Nintendo will have the ultimate in backwards compatability.

[Lkr]

Originally Posted by Trentendo™

How the hell can you make a pc game bc anyway

...you must be really computer illetirate >_>