Be Warned Nintendo

[Lkr]

This is a little conversation I had with Bignds. He is No Logic, and I am Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993. I did questions, he answered, in his true opinion. Here you have it folks:

So, were you first in line for your PSP at the launch date?
[18:41] no logic: i was put down as number 5 but got mine 2nd
[18:42] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: what do you mean by that?
[18:42] no logic: as soon as you go into the store, they asked you what games you pre odered
[18:43] no logic: and give you a number to collect it by
[18:43] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: ok, cool
[18:44] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: how were the people acting? dissing Nintendo?
[18:44] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: fanboys?
[18:44] no logic: it was 11:30pm, everyone there were psp fans
[18:45] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: were they saying anything bad about Nintendo?
[18:45] no logic: nah, sony fans seem more "mature"
[18:45] no logic: ive always been one
[18:45] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: ok, lol
[18:46] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: how was your reaction when you got your PSP, opened it, and powered it up for the first time?
[18:47] no logic: it was cool, wasnt as surprised as id like to be because id played one in GAME for about 20 minutes before i picked mine up
[18:47] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: so, did you get your Nintendo DS on launch date?
[18:48] no logic: i think it was day after
[18:48] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: okay
[18:48] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: well
[18:49] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: you really loved your DS very much the first couple of days, and same with the PSP so far. Which was better the first couple of days, and which sensation was better when you turned them on for the first time?
[18:50] no logic: id time spent over the first few days is about the same, but the feeling of turning on the psp the first time was better
[18:51] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: after saying that, if the PSP goes at its current rate, could it detrown nintendo in the handheld market?
[18:52] no logic: it will be tough but its no impossible
[18:52] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: why do you say that?
[18:53] no logic: because it will be close race, both systems are very good
[18:54] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: what makes the DS better than the PSP?
[18:54] no logic: i dont think it is
[18:55] no logic: but if i had to say one thing it would be gba compatibitly
[18:55] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: is the GBA better than the DS? right now I think it is.
[18:56] no logic: it is
[18:56] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: which launch was bigger in the UK; the DS or PSP?
[18:57] no logic: the chat window closed, could you repeat that?
[18:57] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: which launch was bigger in the UK; the DS or PSP?
[18:57] no logic: psp by miles
[18:57] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: is the DS dead in the UK?
[18:58] no logic: no its still going but i can see it going the way of the cube, great games nut widely accepted
[18:58] no logic: not*
[18:59] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: so which is better; your DS or PSP?
[19:00] no logic: from reading up on psp i knew it was the system for me but i'll still be playing my ds for mario kart and new mario bros
[19:00] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: this brings us to our final question of the evening; which handheld, in your opinion will win the handheld market?
[19:03] no logic: it will soon start to be close race in us once it gets more established, and it will get better in japan. Things could get pretty even in these terrortories, so europe could be the last remainng facotr, and psp is and will slaughter the ds so the psp could very well win
[19:04] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: is that slaughtering the DS in the end, or just in Europe?
[19:05] no logic: slaughter it in eurpe
[19:05] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: okay
[19:05] Zelda_Guru, tom_nook, Lkr721993: thank you for your time

[Euan]

Interesting to see two youths' lives being 'thrown down the drain' while pretending to interview each other on MSN :p

I don't think the PSP will slaughter the DS here. Although even non-gamers have heard of it, it's being highly rated by the media and everyone is talking about it, not many people I know are actually going out to buy it.

[Lkr]

but the DS is in its coffin in the UK(according to BigNDS), and its been in its coffin here in the US. euan, just listen. The PSP is a better system that has more to offer for me than the DS will ever have. Nintendo is basically just releasing a bunch of old technology.

[bignds]

Weather you like it or not it will win Europe.
lol me a youth? why in my day the word youth wasnt thrown around like it is now, we'd walk 15 miles just to get to school, and now look im still as fit as i ever was.
Also the British markt is full of gadget collectors, who must have iPods, and the psp will really appeal to the "iPod crowd".

[Sepharite]

Personally, I think the DS and the PSP are dead right now. I rarely see anyone with it, partly because Toronto isn't exactly crime-free... anyways,

The PSP is a better system that has more to offer for me than the DS will ever have. Nintendo is basically just releasing a bunch of old technology.

Yes, it's quite evident that the PSP has more to offer in terms of technology (as it's been stated 10000 times already, thanx) but in terms of having fun? That is another story.

Btw, does anyone have a chart of the sales for North America for PSP/DS?

But we know DS is owning in Japan but that is a whole different culture (trust me... a WHOLE different). =)

edit: You know what, someone should have dressed up as Mario and gave the PSP customers the finger. That would be hilarious. ._.

[ShadowMarth]

Lol... What was the point of this lkr? There's no debate here.

[RYGR]

Lol this is strange, yes i am going to listen to bignds. If he says iit will do bad in Europe it will do bad :P

[Lkr]

he didnt said it would do bad, he just said the PSP would pwn it in Europe, which i dont doubt

[ShadowMarth]

Yeah... that's really sad. It sucks so very much, since it has such crappy games. Come on UKers... If you actually had the info to get one on launch, then why did you get one at all?

[Baronen]

Originally Posted by Lkr721993

but the DS is in its coffin in the UK(according to BigNDS), and its been in its coffin here in the US. euan, just listen. The PSP is a better system that has more to offer for me than the DS will ever have. Nintendo is basically just releasing a bunch of old technology.

I'm not trying to get you to change your mind (something I'm sure a narrowminded PSP-fan like yourself never could do anyway), it really does disgust me the ignorancy on display. You would have made a better argument for the PSP by just being quiet, because then I would have gotten a headache from reading your post, and as a result of that not having my confidence in Sony-fans being lowered yet again. Anyway, you claim the PSP is a better system that offers more than the DS ever will, because the DS just reuses old technology. Now, sure taste is subjective, but these claims are just ludicrous, and here's why:

The PSP is nothing more than minilized PS2. It offers nothing new, innovative or even mildy exciting in terms of gameplay (apart from the odd title like Mercury or Lumines, which I must admit look gorgeous), and is in that sense way more outdated than the DS. With the DS Nintendo is really expanding gameplay. Sure, it's no revolution. Touch screens are nothing new (although they sort of are gaming-wise, seeing as hardware using such technology in the past such as PDAs were never focused on gaming), but they expand on gaming and try to make it more accessible to the public, a claim you can't possibly try to accuse Sony of doing. Releasing titles you've already played in the past on your PS2, just ... less is one thing, but it isn't rocket science to see that this isn't the direction that gaming needs to move in. For example, let's take a concept everyone is fairly familiar with: The first person shooter genre. Now, moving two sticks in separate directions is not intuitive. Rather, touching the screen and looking around by moving a pen, much closer to a mouse used on a computer, is much more logical.

My guess, and hope, is that the public will recognize Sony's handheld machine for what it is: Nothing new or interesting beyond better graphics and multimedia abilities that aren't especially thought-through or exciting in any way.

Ugh, it's almost four in the morning. I'll write more tomorrow, I swear.