Why the PS3 Will be a Flop

[Lkr]

Not Welcome: Flaming fanboys and girls. Posts saying it is too long to read are also not welcome.

Welcome: Gamers that want to know the truth about the next generation of video games

All of us know that the Sony Playstation 3 will launch at the end of the year. It looks like a strong system but isn't as poweful as people think. It has been confirmed that the PS3 doesn't have more power than the XBOX 360. Current PC games and video cards can do better than the PS3 in graphical terms. And the PS3 is NOTHING new. Yeah sure, the dumb controller. Nintendo has a much better controller with that same feature, but BETTER. Now when you look at the price, you have a sucky $500 console and the good console for $600. Obviously you would take the $600 one, because the $500 one has nothing good on it. A non-upgradeable 20GB harddrive, no HDMI, and no WiFi. Now take the price into consideration. You've already purchased a $600 console and you're gonna need a game, and another controller. Controllers will retail from $40-60 and games from $60-80. Yes folks, the games could indeed get as high as $80. Next you're gonna want that HDTV setup with your HDMI. So to get a top of the line 1080p HDTV you're gonna be spending around $1500-2500. So now your price could be over $3000. Not to mention the games don't look to good. For the XBOX 360, you can get a premium pack for $400, Oblvion and GRAW for $120, and a good 1080p HDTV for $1500-2500. An extra controller is about $40. So now when you add the 360 premium, extra controller, and 2 games together ITS LESS THAN THE PS3 itself. Now the path I am going to take, and a lot of other forum members are taking is with the Nintendo Wii. An innovative, motion sensing machine. This machine at the most will be $250. So lets assume that is the case. Games will be $50. So we can get 2 games already and the price is already at less than the 360 premium. You don't need an HDTV for the Wii, nor would you need use of it, so lets not go purchase one of those. Next, an extra controller would be $20-30. Add one of those on. Your price is still much less than the 360 package even WITHOUT the HDTV. So let's get a another game for our Wii. Time to check out. Don't forget, tax will be there when you actually purchase any one of these systems. Let's look at the prices:

PS3 Package:

PS3-$600
ONE Game: $60-80
Controller: $40-60(these are blutooth folks, they will be expensive)
1080p HDTV: $1500-2500.
Possible total #1: $2200 if you want a non-big name HDTV and every price here is correct.
Possible and most likely total: $2920
Huge Price total: $3240

Let's get in line to purchase our XBOX 360 now:

XBOX 360 Premium: $400
Controller: $40
2 Games: $120
1080p HDTV: $1500-2500

Total #1: $2560
Cheapest route: $2060
No HDTV: $560

Saving $140 from the cheapest PS3 price if you get an HDTV.

Now lets take a look at our Wii total, because Wii are excited to take it home and check it out:

Wii: $200-250
Controller: $20-30
THREE games: $120-150

Cheapest total: $360
Most probable: $430

If the indeed price WAS $430 you would still be saving $2490 by not getting a PS3 and HDTV. You would be saving $2130 by not getting an XBOX 360 and an HDTV. Also, if you were to get an XBOX 360 with no HDTV, you would still be saving $130. Yes folks, that is if you get more games on the Wii and it is at its most expensive price range. The Wii price could be even less than that. I hope this makes it clear that the next generation belongs to Nintendo.

[ShadowMarth]

Yeah. I didn't read the argument at all. But here's the only reasons they need for it to avoid being a flop.

Fanbase. Brand name.

[Lkr]

Playstation Forums Moderator Sir_Crono(who I personally hate) agrees with me: http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...sage.id=218167 . He locks a topic where I point out the facts. Whats up with this, mods agreeing that PS3 will be a flop?

[Neumie]

flip...i had a nice reply and i hit some button config that took me too some weird part of the site :S.
anywho the gist was:
alot come down to blu-ray becoming the standard:nice, cheap blu-ray player if it suceeds, over priced console if it fails.
€500 model cant play movies after a few years due to a hardware constraint which is just silly.
HDD is replaceable (thank god).
sony not finiancially sound (except for there games division) and need to reduce production costs fast.
MS will undermine sony left right and center with price drops etc.
thar be my etc etc.
and thats about it i think :P

[fischju]

Originally Posted by Lkr

Playstation Forums Moderator Sir_Crono(who I personally hate) agrees with me: http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...sage.id=218167 . He locks a topic where I point out the facts. Whats up with this, mods agreeing that PS3 will be a flop?

if someone came on here saying the Wii will be a flop it would get locked >.>

Originally Posted by fischju

if someone came on here saying the Wii will be a flop it would get locked >.>

only if thats all it said, and had no relevant arguments.

[ProtomanX]

yeah i agree with what you say. I will admit that i am a nintendo fanboy ( only in the since that i will pick it over the other two) but earlier this year i was considering picking up a 360 for halo and what not. I love halo its awesome but i dont think it is worth it. so im hoping that my buddy Mr. Gates drops the Platium 360 price so i can pick that baby up. plus my tv at home is hd ready ( meaning i just need some extenral box ironically its a sony tv and i have a sony dvd player hehe)
I like how you laided down the facts. it was short and to the point. Cost. which is huge in todays world. Nintendo my not have the best graphically system but that keeps there cost down and they do other things that make up for the graphics.

[bignds]

Originally Posted by ShadowMarth

But here's the only reasons they need for it to avoid being a flop.

Fanbase. Brand name.

BAH GOLLY THE WIZARD SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

Also, why didnt you put a 'cheapest route for the PS3, but put one for the 360?

In addition, it (the PS3) wont be a flop, no matter which way you look at it, simply because of shadowmarths 2 points. It would be a bad choice of purchase, but not a flop.

[Sparks]

being a flop means absolutely no-one will buy the product...
but some people will go to any lengths, or prices to own something like that...
say Nintendo brought out a new console, and it was slightly more expensive than a new Xbox console, would you buy the Nintendo or the Xbox?
if you love Nintendo then you'd buy the Nintendo console...
this is the case with many people with the PS series...
even though it is losing quite a lot of loyalty due to their prices and what, there is quite a lot of support behind the PS3 launch...

-x- Sparkle -x-

[Neumie]

well what would constitute a flop for a console?
imho i think its a flop if it fails to make a profit for the company (i.e there arent enough games sold to cover losses on the hardware and make a bundle) throughout its lifetime.

it could also be if a console fails to achieve what the company set out to achieve.
so in the wiis case, if it fails to outsell the GC over its lifetime it would be considered a failure.
in sonys case, if PS3 fails to make a good profit then that could also be seen as a failure, even if they sold 200 million units.
the xbox could be seen as a disaster from a finaincial point but it succeeded in getting the xbox name out there and made a good reputation for itself among many.
thar be my 2 cents